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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT

SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA

ORIGINAL

RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR

TESTIMONY

OF

special AceENT [i] HEEEEEN EENERENEEES

Federal Grand Jury 07-103
Federal Building
U.S. Courthouse
West Palm Beach, Florida
Tuesday, March 20, 2007

APPEARANCES:

F
Lo] States Attorney

HELENA JOSETTE JONES-PARSONS,
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The sworn testimony of SPECIAL AGENT E.
TE BE i: taken before the Federal
Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, Federal
Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach County,
State of Florida, on Tuesday, March 20, 2007.

BE c-ctificd court
Reporter and Notary Public, State of Florida,
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THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear

that the testimony you give will be the

truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the

truth, so help you God?

THE WITNESS: I do.
THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be
seated.

EXAMINATION

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Q Special Agent | . could you

please state and spell your name for the record?
A c's HE TE 2s

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or the last time that we met, we discussed two

girls, correct?

A 185.

Q Who visited Mr. Epstein's home?

A Yes.

Q And those were IE i and |] B.-

A Tes.
Q Did you obtain photographs of those
girls?

A Tes, I did.

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Q And do vou know approximately when those |

photographs were taken?

A They were taken during the same time
period that we are investigating, '04 and '05.
There may have been a few in '03, but it was
within a year's time of six months within the
activity that we are investigating.

Q All right. Let me show you what has
heen marked as Grand Jury Exhibits 1 and 2, and
can you tell us what Exhibit 1 1s?

A Exhibit 1 is [JI PB. anc it's a
photograph of her with her date of birth listed.

Q And what is Exhibit 27?

A A photograph of I | with her date

of birth as well on it.

MS. IE: 2nd I will just pass

those to the grand jury.

By vs. I

2 Now the last time that we were here, vou

had described how [Jl B- had brought mB

to Mr. Epstein's home?

A Yes.

0 pid Jl B- bring other girls to the
Epstein house?

A Yes, she did.

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Q And is one of those girls I -

A Yes.

0 And what is the date of birth of
TR

A She was born

Q And where did go to high

school?

Q And is that the same school that
mm B went to? |
A Yes.
Q And was [ll B- ever a student at that

A Yes, she was.
0 Tell us a little bit about -- well,

first of all, did the Palm Beach Police Department

have a chance to interview IEEE -

A Yes, they did.

Q And what about yourself?

A And I did as well.

Q Okay. Tell us, if you will, how

mmm started going to Mr. Epstein's house?
A BB vas the one who brought I to
Mr. Epstein's house. I told that she

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makes $200 if she performed a massage for Mr.
Epstein.

She also was told by |] that he may
try te touch you, but if you are uncomfortable,
just tell him no, and she also said that if

Epstein asked her age, she was to say she was 18.

Q Now that information that you just

relayed, who provided that information?
A EEE
Q and what did | IEGEGG --
A I'm sorry. BE -cvided in the

interview to me that information.

Q pid | 21sc admit that she brought
BB tc Mr. Epstein's home?

A Yes.

Q When did this first occur?

A This occurred in -- we believe the first
time period was when [JJ was 1¢.

Q And is there any telephone records that

show communications between I | and
HE I «Il 1 << I

A Tes.
2 And when are those phone records?
A Those phone records show up in March of

'04 when | would be 16.

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0 Let me show what has been marked as

Grand Jury Exhibit Number 3, and what is Exhibit

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A This is a photograph of |} NEG Bl with

her date of birth, BE

Q Now you mentioned that in March of 2004
and April of 2004, there are these records of

phone calls and did BE av how old she was

when she first went to Mr. Epstein's house?

A I'm sorry. Did say how old she

was’?

Q Did she tell you or the police ocfficers
how old she was?

A Yes. I'm sorry. I thought your
question was did she tell Mr. Epstein.

She told me that she was 16 when she

went to Mr. Epstein's house.

Q Okay. That is consistent with those
phones calls?

A Yes, 1t is.

Q Okay. Now during her first wvisit with
Mr. Epstein, what happened?

A She went to Mr. Epstein's house. I

took her there. I told her she didn't have

her driver's license at that time, which she told

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her she got her driver's license when she was 17.

so Jl drove her to Mr. Epstein's

house. She provided Mr. Epstein with a few
massages. She remained clothed both times that
she gave him a massage. At this time, she kept

her clothes on.

I think one time she was wearing shorts
and a T-shirt, maybe the second time she was
wearing jeans and a T-shirt. That he constantly
grabbed and pulled at her during the massage
trying to draw her closer to him, but at that
time, you know, there was no sexual activity other
than the grabbing and pulling.

There was no sexual activity that took

place on those first couple of massages, and she

remained clothed at that time.
Q Now after those first few massages, was
there a break in time before he returns to

the Epstein house?
A I told us that she and [ had

period where she did not go back to Mr. Epstein’'s
house.

Q And when -- did there then come a time

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when she returned to the Epstein house?

A Yes. We have phone activity between

BEES BEEN oc BEEN JJ bcoinning in December

of "04.

Q And how old was 1] i in December
of '047?

A She had turned 17 at that time. In
fact, through the course of the phone records
beginning in December of '04 to October of 2005,
we have over 150 phone calls between ] Z.
and J BB. Vr. Epstein's assistant.

Q What did J Zz. tell you about the

activity that occurred when she started returning
in late '04°7?

A When she started giving Mr. Epstein
massages after that break, the massages became
much more sexual in nature. Mr. Epstein continued
to push and there were many times when |]
would perform massages completely nude.

Several times, she would stay in her
underwear with no bra on, but stated to me that
many occasions she performed the massages to Mr.

Epstein in the nude.

Q In addition to being unclothed, was

there other sexual activity?

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A Yes, there was. [|| during my
interview with } she became very upset when
discussing the sexual activity that took place at

that time.

She stated that Mr. Epstein had
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on more than one occasion actually
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He would request her to pinch his

. He rubbed her BE :: well. She
stated that there was a BE nt -.
as well, did not penetrate her, but

that she described the

, and several of the
other wictims have said the same thing, described
1t similar to that.

0 And just before I forget, when you
testified about [I cic HEE :1sc report

A Yes.

0 And, again, so the record is clear, when
you are talking about these } they are

A We have had some girls just describe

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them as a We have had some girls just

lhe laid on his stomach and then he would reach

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describe them as - ITE --- then we also

had girls describe them as both, because of the

what I... look like due to their ages.

You know, I don't know that everybody

knew exactly what a EEE 1ooked like,
but they all I and we have actually had

that described, and |] described it as both,
IEEE -- ic thet it vas. vou
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Okay. Now in addition to using that

there other sexual activity

A Yes. Several times during the massages,

Mr. Epstein would have | straddle him while

occasionally --

Q And this is when he was laying on his

back not his stomach?

A I'm sorry. Did I say that?
0 You said on his stomach.
A He is laying on his back. She's on top |

of him straddled, and he is reaching [EE

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that was what was described to us by EN.

0 Now when was [J first interviewed
by the Palm Beach Police?

A She was interviewed October 6th of 200

2 And at that time, did she say when her

last wisit was to Mr. Epstein's house?

A Yes, she said October 1st, 2005, was the

last massage that she had given Mr. Epstein.

Q Is there any other evidence that was
recovered from Mr. Epstein's or his household
items that would confirm that statement?

A We have a message pad. During the
search warrant, several of the message pads -- I
don't know if we referred to them at this stage.
We may not have.

We recovered -- well, I shouldn't say
we, the Palm Beach Police Department recovered
several message pads. They were carbon copy
message pads.

So we have several of those books from
their search warrant and in there, there is a

message on October 1st confirming [GEN

appointment for the massage as well as another

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Q And is there also evidence that [|J}]}NGN
and ll BB actually spoke on October 1st

before that message?

A We have cell phone calls between [IB
BE :< BB =: well as the message which
was from [ to Jeffrey regarding -- confirming

the appointment for I but we have a cell

phone call I believe it was a little bit earlier

I but it is definitely between the two of

them on that same day.

0 All right. When [ll was interviewed

by the Palm Beach Police Department, did she

describe all of the sexual activity?

A No, she did not. She did not tell them

about the DE, the she didn't tell them

., And, again, you said that when vou
brought up -- did you sort of confront her with

the idea that more had occurred?

A I did, and she was very embarrassed

about the a I asked her at one point if

Mr. Epstein had given her any gifts and she got

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could see that she was very embarrassed.
So we took a little bit of a break, but

then she was able to say that Mr. Epstein had
provided her as a birthday present a I So

on her, but at this time -- and I think that's
kind of what got | talking about the sexual
activity that she was able to tell me that, and
she was very, very embarrassed, but that Mr.
Epstein had given her for her eighteenth birthday

Q Now you mentioned that that happened on
her eighteenth birthday?

A Yes.

Q And was she able to tell you whether Mr.

Epstein knew it was her eighteenth birthday?

A She stated that Mr. Epstein provided to
her on her eighteenth birthday the ERE
shortly -- well --

Q So before you had said that [Jj had

instructed | te tell everyone that she was
18; do vou remember that?

A Yes.

Q But at some point, the people in the

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A Her birthday was coming up.

Q And at some point, was a car provided

A Yes. In Dctober of '05, I was
having -- | asked Mr. Epstein is she could

borrow one of his cars to go to Orlando and he
stated that -- at first he said yes, and then he
said he would get her a rental car.

Soc J contacted I a few days
later and said that a car had been rented for
BE 2nd that the house manager used the
company credit card and [ll picked up that

car, and actually when the police interviewed her

on Qctober 6th, which was five or six days after

the last massage, they were able to see that that

Nissan Sentra that had been rented by Mr. Epstein,

BE h:2d that in her possession for at least

through January 1st of 2006 and that car was

rented by Mr. Epstein for at least that amount of

time.

Q Did | describe how the massage

appointments would be made?

A Yeg, she did.
Q And how was that?
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A she stated that |||} TH. that

} Jeffrey's assistant, would call her and set
up appointments, and that sometimes she would call
her on her cell phone from New York, from the
Islands, and say that they were coming into town,
was she available.

she would also call [I while they
were in town to see if she was available for

massages, to give massages to Mr. Epstein, and

stated that  F who we have identified as ne
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appointments up.

0 And when those appointments were made
how would [ll reach ER:

A By phone.

Q All right. And whether she was in town
or out of town, she would call |G cell
phone?

A Yes.

Q All right. Now was there any -- during

the interview with the police department, did the
police department ask a about what she
discussed with Jeffrey Epstein during the
massages?

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2 Q All right.
3 A My answer to your guestion is yes.
4 Q Okay. And what did she say were some of
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8 that -- Jeffrey knew that she was =

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16 A Yes,

17 Q So in other words, did Mr. Epstein know

18 that she was in high school at the time?

19 | A Yes, he did. And the Palm Beach Police

asked J if Jeffrey knew her age and || NEGEG

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A She stated she was paid $200 and that

she received anywhere from two to $300.

Q With every visit?
A With each visit.
Q Okav. Did she say who would provide he

with that money?
A She said that Jeffrey paid her at the

end of the massage.

Q All right. You mentioned the gift of
the vibrator. Were there other gifts that were
given to [NGG

A Yes. The time period is unclear, but
the EXE given to her for her eighteenth
birthday. There were three sets of bra and

underwear, panties, Victoria Secret bra and
underwear sets that were also given to I as
gifts from Mr. Epstein.

Q Now I know that we talked earlier about
the fact that |] is the person who brought
I tc Mr. Epstein's house. pid [EEE =ver
bring anvone to Mr. Epstein’'s house?
|] brought a female by the name of

. and that was a friend of  }

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Q How old was [JJ +ter HEE took

her to Mr. Epstein's house?
A BB tock her there in the spring of

2005 and EEG Re RTO RR TI

Q Now can you tell us now [JJ vent

about bringing [JN « the house?
A a told [J 2 she could make

some money giving a massage to Mr. Epstein and

hE and hn went to Mr. Epstein's house

together.

The first time that he went there,

she did not go upstairs and give him a massage.
BE “as working that day. But in talking to

| further, ee stated that she probably

and October of '05, performed around five to ten

massages for Mr. Epstein.

The first few of those he did not do

anything as far as no  B noe sexual

activity. She would just perform a massage.
Q And did that change over time?
A Yan, "1t did. She stated that she

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performed two toe three massages out of those five
or ten and in her underwear and bra only, and
that he would push her each time.

He would just push her to do more and on
the third -- I believe she stated the third or
fourth massage, he told her that she could make
more money if she removed her clothing, because
she stayed clothed during the first few massages,
and she was paid $200 for each of those massages.

On the third or fourth massage, Mr.
Epstein said that s=he could make more money if she
removed her clothing. So around the fourth or
fifth time, she did start taking off her clothing
down to her underwear and bra only.

Q And then what happened when she was at
that point of being unclothed?

A She would perform the massage. He
attempted to touch her, but she always would say
no. At one point, her bra does get undone by Mr.
Epstein, but she does keep it up.

2 Now that was the extent of his touching
BE. »t sore point, did he ———
in front of her?

A Yes, he did. Not in the very beginning,

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of reserved or held back as he made advances

towards her, she was able to see Mr. Epstein's

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not feel that Mr. Epstein liked her very much.
Q But just toe sort of compare what I

said with what [ said, they both said that

at the beginning they remained clothed?

A Yes.

Q And that Mr. Epstein progressively
pushed and pushed and pushed for more sexual
activity?

A fees.

Q Now what was the period of time that
IB “cnt to Mr. Epstein's home?

A March of -- I'm sorry, spring of "05 is

when JJM said that she went there and around,

you know, the investigation is heating up with

Palm Beach, so we know that in September of '05,
there was a trash pull done, and in that trash
pull there was a message and that was found and it
stated -- it had phone number on it and
it stated, for a good time call N and

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Q And whose stationery was that?
A It was on Jeffrey Epstein's stationery. |
Q And had Jeffrey Epstein been in a Palm |
Beach resident close to those dates?
A Tes.
Q Now is there evidence of telephone calls
between ||| =< EN TH:
A ies.
Q And how many phone calls have you been
able to identify? |
A At this time, there have been 14 phone |
calls. ( :
8} All right. And just to compare that to
the number of phone calls with [EN
A with | there was over 150 phone
calls between [I =< I BT
Q And that is sort of consistent with the
number of massages that |] did versus the
number of massages that || did?
A It is consistent with especially the
activity that ] was providing Mr. Epstein
compared to the activity that [|] would
provide.
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one moment.

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Bl ee Ladies and gentlemen, I
am going to have to take a break now and we
will be back either next week or the
following week. Thank you very much. You

are done for the day.

(Witness was excused.)

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